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Feb 25, 2012 9:08 AM CST
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Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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Does this need a databox to check off or ?

This is what the US Patent Office has to say about patented plants and I want to note patented plants in some entries:

"Propagation of patented plants in any way, shape or form without the owner's permission or until the patent term has expired, is strictly prohibited by federal law. Patents are for 17 or 20 years and are not renewable."
I garden for the pollinators.
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Feb 25, 2012 12:19 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Just a few thoughts: being able to know that a plant is patented would be good information to have.

More than just a checkbox, it would be nice to have the year that the patent was received, as well as the patent number.
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Feb 25, 2012 12:28 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
The fact that a plant is still under patent and sometimes even the patent number itself is often found on new plant tags. Green Grin!

But if we don't know all that info, it doesn't mean we can't enter the plant in the db, right?
I garden for the pollinators.
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Feb 25, 2012 1:00 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Right.
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Feb 25, 2012 4:23 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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So will be have a special place in the entry for that information?
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Feb 25, 2012 4:49 PM CST
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Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
What do you think, Lynn?

I'll venture a suggestion. A check box in the Miscellaneous section of the databox might work. Checking "Patented" would be similar to checking something like "Endangered" since all currently endangered plants won't necessarily remain that way forever just like patented plants don't remain that way forever. Maybe when it was checked, the magic line would appear like it does other places and we could fill in the patent number or year of patent expiration if we have that information. If not, I suppose the line could just remain blank? I don't know. Just a suggestion. It needs to be something that will work for everyone across the board, and I don't know where else it would go?
I garden for the pollinators.
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Feb 25, 2012 5:56 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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That's not a bad idea, Tee. A checkbox for patented under Miscellaneous, with a magic line appearing where you can optionally add whatever patent info you deem appropriate.
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Feb 25, 2012 8:06 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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I like that idea, with the option of being able to add all the information if we can find it.
This is what I have done with some of them.

Sedum (Hylotelephium Candy™ Chocolate Drop)
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Feb 26, 2012 2:51 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Sorry, I'm just getting back here. Since no one seems to be objecting, I vote for the box under Misc. along with the magic line option. I have some hardy Hibiscus that I want to add that information as well as some other things. The patent holders of those are renowned in their field and it just seems like the respectful thing to do. Or we could put it under propagation. Whatever ya'll want to do.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Feb 26, 2012 9:10 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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It's added!
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Feb 26, 2012 9:28 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
I tip my hat to you.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Feb 26, 2012 10:10 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
I'll go back through and reorder how they are in my entries. Thumbs up
Thank you Dave.
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Feb 26, 2012 3:15 PM CST
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Name: Evan
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How about PPAF? If we use the patent check box the PPAF and number or info could go into the Magic line.
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Feb 26, 2012 3:36 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
I agree, Evan, that's what I'm going to do as well. Thumbs up .
I garden for the pollinators.
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Feb 26, 2012 4:04 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Tee, can you give me a link to one you are doing?
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Feb 26, 2012 4:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Let me see if I can find one. I'm using the check box and then putting what info I have on the line. Is that what you are doing?
I garden for the pollinators.
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Feb 26, 2012 4:21 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Hybrid Hardy Hibiscus (Hibiscus 'Old Yella')

And this is another Patent Pending. I'm noting the pending ones in a comment. I might change that but if the patent is pending , it is recorded under that number. So will change when a patent is granted. Hybrid Hardy Hibiscus (Hibiscus 'Robert Fleming')

And this one is patented. Hybrid Hardy Hibiscus (Hibiscus 'Kopper King')
I garden for the pollinators.
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Feb 26, 2012 7:28 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Thumbs up
Thanks Tee.
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Feb 26, 2012 7:47 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Dave would you add a Patent field for sedum in the plant specific area?
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Feb 26, 2012 8:04 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
The patent field is present for all plants. Why do you want a second one for a specific plant? It would be entirely redundant.

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