Plant Database forum: About uploading licensed photos to the database

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Name: Dave Whitinger
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Feb 25, 2012 12:18 PM CST Admin

The below is outdated information. For the latest info on the subject, go to this thread over here

There are some people who are uploading photos on behalf of various hybridizers out there.

For example, I know that Calif_Sue and Vic have both spent their winter talking to hybridizers of daylilies (and other plants) and getting their permission to upload their photos to our database.

Those photos still belong to the hybridizer and are being shown here on ATP by permission, exactly as if the hybridizer had uploaded the photos themselves.

Now, on the other hand, there are collections of images out on the web that are licensed under certain restrictions that would allow you to use those images on your own website. Some license examples are GPL and Creative Commons.

The question has come up: do we allow GPL, CC and similarly licensed images to be used in the database? After contemplating the matter, my answer is "no, not at this time."

Only photos that have been specifically granted permission for us to use without restriction can be uploaded into the database.

This policy doesn't affect the other areas of the site (specifically the articles, where GPL images are frequently used).
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Name: Lynn
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Feb 25, 2012 3:15 PM CST
I now see, said the very blind person. *Blush*
I have been guilty of that. There are just a few, so I will go back and delete. Sure glad I found this out before I did very many. Thought I hit a gold mine, especially for species plants. *Blush*

Sorry Dave. Smiling
Name: Connie
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Feb 25, 2012 3:53 PM CST
Some of the photos that Sue uploaded from B&D Lilies site appear to have been acquired from another party (I assume B&D paid a fee for using the photos). Is it right for these photos to be in the database? Doesn't sound quite kosher to me...

Here is one example:

Lily (Lilium 'Tessala')
Name: Suzanne
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Feb 27, 2012 10:07 AM CST

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B&D are licensed to carry those plants and as a nursery, they also obtain the rights to use the hybridizer photos as advertising in any way they see fit. When I email nurseries, the option is they can join ATP and upload photos themselves or I can do it for them, linking back to their site, the advertising part. Since I write "photo courtesy of...", it does not denote that they are the original photographer but that the photo was used with their permission, which is what they have a right to use as part of their licensed use of that photo.
The photo may not depict a natural garden setting as the link you provided but anyone can 'stage' blooms, either as shown or even part of a flower show. Right now, that is the only example we have of that bloom and this database is growing by leaps and bounds and when people do searches, most enjoy a visual aspect of an entry, I know I do. Hopefully others will add to the entries to show a wide variety of looks for that lily.
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