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Apr 3, 2010 10:59 AM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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that fact amazed me the first time it happened to me
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Apr 3, 2010 2:55 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
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Barbara, now that you have a few Laura seedlings, I'll be anxious to hear if you get any volunteers next year. I'm telling you, those puppies are tough.

Karen
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Apr 3, 2010 2:56 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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I took some of my collected seed and tossed them in my tubs... can't wait to see if it works
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Apr 3, 2010 4:16 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
And have you heard of the doomsday vault? Seed are being frozen for up to 10, 000 years to preserve them. They have been doing this since 1984.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

Karen
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Apr 3, 2010 9:19 PM CST
Name: Linda
Carmel, IN (Zone 5b)
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Barbara/Allison: Is there any chance your Firenze petunia seed was from Summerhill Seed?
I am not so upset that they didn't germinate at all, but I think any responsible company would want to know.

I have heard of the doomsday vault. Isn't that amazing (and I think an incredibly important project)?
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Apr 3, 2010 9:27 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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yes they were from Summer Hill
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Apr 7, 2010 6:15 AM CST
Name: Chris
NW Pa, Near Lake Erie
My Avalanche petunias are ready to pot up into their handing baskets, I need more room for other plants under the lights, I can hang the baskets near the basement window till they are ready to go outside.
I will be combining the red and white petunias.

I feel so bad for Summer Hill there is a whole thread in DG regarding poor germination rates, of course some of it might be due to the grower. I noticed a problem with petunia seeds last year so I made a point to order elsewhere.

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Apr 28, 2010 3:50 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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woo hoo my first bloom!!!! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!

I have it marked as Petunia Dolcissima Flambe Salmon... but it doesn't look like that

???

edit -- the one is Dolce Siena

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Apr 28, 2010 4:23 PM CST
Ontario, Canada (Zone 6a)
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Allison, whatever it is, I LOVE IT!
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Apr 28, 2010 4:24 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
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Yeah, it's pretty.

Karen
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Apr 28, 2010 6:14 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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I agree I will have to look though my journal and figure out if it's a rouge seed I dropped in the wrong place... or maybe the Summer Hill photo is deceiving

could be either... but it's different than any others I grown before
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Apr 28, 2010 6:27 PM CST
Name: Barbara
North Pole, Alaska
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Allison..It IS pretty!
Looks like Summer Hill's photo is a stock image. If you type in Dolcissima Flambe Salmon, you'll get the exact same photo on several sites, just in varying degrees of sharpness and brightness. (I found the same pic on 4 different sites) Looks like each bloom is different and personally, I think your pic looks like some in the stock photos...It germinated AND it bloomed! Hurray!
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Apr 28, 2010 6:33 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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I couldn't get a close up of it .. was so hard to tell from the stock photo and I saw the same thing.. everyone has the same photo.. just going to check with my other seeds I started to see if it might be another before I decide it's that one.. LOL
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Apr 28, 2010 6:43 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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don't know... nothing else matches it in my journal .. will have to see what the others turn out like

http://www.tmseeds.com/product...
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Apr 28, 2010 6:56 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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I guess if it gets the yellowish in the center... then I would be convinced.. there is one on the right side of the stock photo that looks like it without the yellow
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May 5, 2010 8:49 AM CST
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Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
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There were some questions posted on Dave's Garden and here is a copy of my response.

Hi everyone. I started a new job with long hours and have been overwhelmed trying to pot up all the "flip'n" petunias that I seeded this year. I have totally run out of space and it will be a few weeks until I can put them outside. We have a cold wet forecast for the next week, so it will be challenge.

Fragrance: The Blue Waves are fairly fragrant. Hot Pink Tidal Wave is very fragrant. Supertunia Dble Peppermint is very fragrant too, but not sure that I like the smell. We are very dry here, so most "fragrant" flowers are less intense than a more humid area. There may be other petunias that are fragrant & I never noticed.

Feeding: I use a slow-release 14-14-14 fertilizer by Smart-Cote for Hanging Baskets. When picking your fertilizer, be sure that it includes macro & micro nutrients as well (not just filler). Things like calcium, magnesium, iron, zinc etc. Put the fertilizer about an inch below the surface. The fertilizer will need good soil contact, moisture and temperatures above 20ºC or 68ºF to actually work. Dry soil, cold temperature will affect the release of nutrients and the plant absorbing/uptake of the fertilizer.

Petunias a fertilizer junkies. They really need consistent fertilizer throughout the growing season. So if you have them in pots, which 90 % of the petunias end up growing in in my yard, the nutrients will be depleted of the soil by the continuous watering (next paragraph) mid to late season and especially if it is hot. So plan to supplement with additional fertilizer. For me, this is mid to late July. I give them a blast of water soluble fertilizer every 2-3 weeks until late September or hard frost. I find that Miracle Grow Ultra Bloom or a bloom booster of some sort (high middle # for NPK) helps with the petunias to continue to pump out new buds and give lots of blooms.

Watering - If it is warmer than 23ºC or 73ºF, I water. Of course in early spring/summer, you should stick you finger in the soil to check, but by mid season the plant will be fairly rootbound and will go from a little dry to parched in no time. Deep watering is the way to go. Water until you see water coming out of the drain holes. That's the perfect amount. Really it is. Just so you know, Calibrachoas are not forgiving if they become parched even once. They will stop blooming in protest and within days they look aweful. Recovery is a slim chance.

What's your pot size? Don't cheap out with the size of pot. If you want big plants, you need room for the roots. Some petunias have a large root system, so be sure that the pot is big enough. Tidal Waves need minimum 14" pot for a single plant. I have put 3 Waves in a 12" pot with good success. Line all wire baskets with plastic, other wise they will dry out too fast and you will not be able to keep up with watering it. So check the stated mature size of the plant. If it is more than 3 feet a 10" pot will not be big enough unless you are giving it greenhouse care with constant feeding and drip water. Try 16". And if you have companion plants as well, you need a bigger pot.

Put mulch on your pot when you first plant it. I like mini bark nuggets since they are cheap, very light weight and look nice. When the plants are small and there is a lot of soil in full sun exposure, the young plants with their small roots can dry out fairly quickly. If you mulch, the moisture level will stay more consistent and it will be no time until the plant fills out enough to completely cover the soil in the pot.

How about a nice pre-planted hanging basket? You will never be able to buy all the plants in the combo at that size for that much money. It's a great deal. Problem is that in about 4 weeks it starts to look a little worse for wear and in about 6 weeks pretty pathetic. so here's what you do, enjoy your basket for a few days (remember in the growers it was constantly drip irrigated, fertilized and was in optimum growing conditions). If you are lucky the place you bought it from actually watered it before it was parched. And you can bet that they did not continue the fertilizing for the week or so that it lived there. Also, the plant material is usually quite robust and the root system is probably close to maxed out for space. So plant it into a bigger pot with slow-release fertilizer. Put a 10" into minimum 18". Your new combo will look fabulous until the end of season.

Pick your petunias variety. For me, I don't like deadheading. All the varieties that I grow are described as "free-flowering or everflowering". If they require deadheading to flower, it's not suitable for me. Some petunias, especially the dbles, only flower at the ends of the stems. so look for that characteristic. You may want to have a "ball" look so you will need a petunia that sets out blooms along the stem rather than just at the end. Another thing with petunias are that most are daylight sensitive. They will stop producing buds with less than 12 hours of daylight. Yes, that includes the Waves. Easy Waves are less forgiving.

My favorite Petunias: Vegetative: Vista Supertunias (any color) and Seed: Blue Wave, Tidal Wave & Shock Wave

Anyways, hope this helps and good luck with your petunias.

Oops forgot to mention the soil mix. I use Premier Pro-Mix BX for all my containers. Great stuff and have used it for years
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May 5, 2010 6:21 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Forum moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Region: New Jersey Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
wow that is some great info.. thanks!!!
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May 7, 2010 6:06 AM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Forum moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Region: New Jersey Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
this one looks to be in the same tray as the other flambe salmon

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May 7, 2010 10:26 AM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Both pretty, Allison.

Karen

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