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Jun 6, 2018 11:45 AM CST
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Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
I took thous pictures this winter near my house in a wild, it is proteced area, they growing there each winter.

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Jun 6, 2018 12:28 PM CST
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They are beautiful!
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Jun 6, 2018 1:24 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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Looks like an Aril....where are you located ?
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Jun 6, 2018 1:26 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
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UndertheSun said:They are beautiful!


I agree What is your location?

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Jun 6, 2018 5:14 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Welcome! to the iris forum sangel. That is a lovely iris Thumbs up
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Jun 6, 2018 7:19 PM CST
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Iris atrofusca I think, but Arils aren't my thing so it could be another, similar, species.
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Jun 7, 2018 8:56 AM CST
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Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
evelyninthegarden said:

I agree What is your location?

@sangel ~ Welcome to the iris forum!!!


Location is Netania, Israel
several more pictures (from last year)




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Jun 7, 2018 9:29 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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Welcome! to the site.

They look very much like they have aril in them, and your location would be right for growing them. They sure are a pretty color. Kent's suggestion of Iris atrofusca (a species iris) also looks like a good possibility.
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Jun 7, 2018 12:42 PM CST
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Welcome sangel! Welcome!
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Jun 7, 2018 9:18 PM CST
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Jun 7, 2018 9:24 PM CST
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Jun 7, 2018 10:11 PM CST
Name: Barbara
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And another welcome sangel Welcome!
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Jul 27, 2018 7:01 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Love those iris, Ron. If you don't know, ask around and see if you can get the identity confirmed and then put them in the data base here. Aril species need all the protection and knowledge they can get.
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Jul 27, 2018 8:00 AM CST
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Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
needrain said:Love those iris, Ron. If you don't know, ask around and see if you can get the identity confirmed and then put them in the data base here. Aril species need all the protection and knowledge they can get.

you can see basic information here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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Jul 27, 2018 8:35 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
Yes, if it's I. atropurpea. It does look like it to me from the photos, but I wouldn't be willing to make a definite i.d. from a photo. I thought that since these are growing wild in a protected area the identity might be established. Israel has been really excellent about trying to protect the aril species habitats of those that are indigenous to the country. Jordan also has some habitat protection where some arils grow, I believe, e.g I. petrana. Sadly, in much of the arils native habitats there has been tremendous pressure on them and some are believed to already be extinct. Unfortunately they are homebodies and have not been very adaptable when removed from their ancestral locations.

If you do know these are I. atropurpea, it would be nice to have a few photos recorded here in the database.
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Jul 27, 2018 8:41 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
Yes, if it's I. atropurpurea. It does look like it to me from the photos, but I wouldn't be willing to make a definite i.d. from a photo. I thought that since these are growing wild in a protected area the identity might be established. Israel has been really excellent about trying to protect the aril species habitats of those that are indigenous to the country. Jordan also has some habitat protection where some arils grow, I believe, e.g. I. petrana. Sadly, in much of the arils native habitats there has been tremendous pressure on them and some are believed to already be extinct. Unfortunately they are homebodies and have not been very adaptable when removed from their ancestral locations and attempts to do that have put further pressure on the native populations.

If you do know these are I. atropurpurea, it would be nice to have a few photos recorded here in the database.
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Jul 27, 2018 8:42 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
yes, we even have a neighborhood in Netania that by the name of this plant (ARGAMAN, ארגמן ) . There is huge amount people that coming to see them when they are blooming.It usually happens after the first big rains. Some other plants are blooming then as well.

P.S. I never tried to take a seeds from them, and grow them on my balcony.
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Jul 27, 2018 8:53 AM CST
Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
Raises cows Enjoys or suffers hot summers Region: Texas Plant Identifier
sangel said:yes, we even have a neighborhood in Netania that by the name of this plant (ARGAMAN, ארגמן ) . There is huge amount people that coming to see them when they are blooming.It usually happens after the first big rains. Some other plants are blooming then as well.

P.S. I never tried to take a seeds from them, and grow them on my balcony.


Provided that only a few seeds are removed, that is the only responsible means for trying to get new populations established where they will grow. In the past, it was often wholesale removal of the rhizomes. I think, much like poaching wild protected animals, irresponsible and often illegal removal of rhizomes still occur - even in protected locations.
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Jul 27, 2018 9:09 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ron
Modi'in Israel (Zone 11a)
here some more info and pictures

http://www.wildflowers.co.il/e...

Pancratium maritimum is also blooming nearby on the cost line
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Jul 27, 2018 9:12 AM CST
East TN
@sangel - Welcome to the forum! Those are gorgeous! I never saw them - probably never got to the right spot at the right time. Israel's come a long way about environmental protections -- hope it continues in the right direction (unlike our U.S. current situation!)

I've got a totally different flower (non-iris) stuck in my brain, though. Do you ever get down to the Negev after rains? I was in Sde Boker in the '70s and remember this gorgeous wild flower - looked like a flowering onion or lily (what did I know then/what do I know now?!). Large, round flower head (actually, lots of little flowers arranged in the round head). Phenomenal, very sweet fragrance (so probably not an onion). It had thorns or spikes on the flower head. I've always been dying to know what it is. I've tried emailing folks at the field station but never got an answer....

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