Annuals forum: Flowering Maple (abutilon)

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Name: Linda
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mom2goldens
Mar 9, 2010 5:52 PM CST
Has anyone had any experience growing these from seed? I managed to get about 4 started last year, but it took me 2 separate tries and numerous seeds. I have the same seed pack as last year, plus some new seed (different color) and of about 12 seeds, only 2 have germinated. I don't know that they need heat, or anything special, but perhaps I'm missing somethings. Any ideas? Otherwise, I might try the Deno method and see what happens.
Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Mar 9, 2010 7:04 PM CST
Here's what Clothier says about abutilon. Are you using bottom heat?

Abutilon darwinii , , ,Type= a/p , , sow @ 75ºF , 15-30d

Abutilon theophrasti , velvetleaf, flower of an hour , ,Type= an , , sow @ 75ºF , 15-30d , cornfield weed

Abutilon vitifolium , parlour maple , ,Type= an , , sow @ 75ºF , 15-30d

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Name: Linda
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mom2goldens
Mar 9, 2010 8:12 PM CST
Karen: The temperature in my basement where I start my seeds is 72 degrees. If I put it on the heat mat, it will go up to about 80. Do you think I should try that? I guess I don't have much to lose if they aren't sprouting anyway.
Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Mar 9, 2010 8:26 PM CST
Well, I don't know that that would help, I've never grown them. But it's what I'd do. Big Grin

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mom2goldens
Mar 9, 2010 8:36 PM CST
OK--I've moved them onto a heat mat in a little container with a humidity dome. If they don't grow, I'm blamin' you, Karen Smiling
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kqcrna
Mar 9, 2010 8:37 PM CST
Well, I DID tell you that I've never grown them.

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mom2goldens
Mar 9, 2010 8:39 PM CST
Hmmm....Didn't see any legal disclaimer on your signature LOL
Name: Joanne
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Joannabanana
Mar 9, 2010 11:23 PM CST
I tried them from seed a few years ago. They bloomed fine too. Come to think of it, I think I had wintersowed them.
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Steven
Apr 5, 2010 6:41 PM CST
I've grown them before and all I did was stick the seed in the seed mix. Didn't use a heat mat or anything and they grew. I've only done them once so maybe it was beginners luck?

Here's a picture of a seedling, I might have enclosed the cup in a baggie for extra humidity, maybe that would help?

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Name: Linda
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mom2goldens
Apr 5, 2010 7:22 PM CST
Only about 1/4 of my seeds germinated (and I did have them under a humidity dome). Not sure if was the seed or my technique, although I didn't have great success last year, either. I managed to get 4 plants started, so that will have to be satisfactory for this year.

A friend of mine has kept on going through the winter by rooting a cutting (!) Who knew? May try that at the end of this season.
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Steven
Apr 5, 2010 8:35 PM CST
I've brought the whole plants in for the winter and they will even bloom in a north window! Or you can take cuttings too. I had one for a few years that I pruned into a small standard. Mine were the Bella variety.
Your 4 plants will probably be great! What colours are they?
Name: Linda
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mom2goldens
Apr 6, 2010 4:20 PM CST
Hi, Steven: I've managed to germinate 2 of the Bella Yellow, and 2 pink (think these are the Bella variety also). Last year, I just had the pink and they were beautiful; can't wait to see the yellow this year! Thanks for the tips on overwintering these.
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Steven
Apr 6, 2010 4:55 PM CST
Heres a link with some more information and some picutres of the one I had. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/129743/ I had the yellow too, and it was beautiful! The one i had was more lemony. I think I'll start another one for this year!
Name: Linda
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mom2goldens
Apr 6, 2010 5:15 PM CST
Great photos--I loved the idea of training one into a standard!

What I found so amazing last year was how small these plants were when they started blooming--they literally were only abut 4" tall with those big blossoms. I was always afraid the blossom was too heavy for that tiny plant. As an annual, mine probably got to be about 12 - 14" tall.
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Steven
Apr 6, 2010 5:37 PM CST
Wow, I don't think mine ever made it that tall in one season! Last time I grew them they mysteriously died..........then I realized the pot had no drainage holes.... Rolling my eyes. .......that wasn't my brightest moment Whistling but they were beautiful while they lasted. And I too like how they flower while still small, 'exotic' plants like that always seem to take forever to bloom!
Name: Terese
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tcs1366
Apr 8, 2010 6:18 AM CST
I only scanned this thread.... but I tried them on a heat mat, still nothing.
Maybe i'll quickly WS some.

Last year, I was at a Flea Market with friends and he bought one... had no idea what it was at the time, so I looked it up for them [they are Sr's with no PC]

I also told him, at the end of the season, he can over winter it in his house... I never knew what they did with it until about a week ago. I was talking to his wife and she said it is stunning and full of blooms. I think he has the green thumb, because she commented he wont let her touch it.

I cant wait to see it again this summer.

He has the Yellow one... the seeds i have are for "mixed". I got them in a seed swap.

now i'll finish this thread... then maybe i'll get some seeds sown today.... COLD gloomy day here, but warm temps are around the corner again.
Terese --Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi

Name: Linda
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mom2goldens
Apr 8, 2010 6:30 PM CST
Let us know how your seeds do, Terese. I've decided that these are just rather slow to germinate and start growing. Once they get started, they are fairly hardy.

Can't wait to see the yellow blooms this year!

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