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Name: Clint Brown
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clintbrown
Mar 9, 2012 10:33 AM CST
I want to make some of these. Does anyone know what kind of glue to use for this?

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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Mar 9, 2012 11:53 AM CST
Wow, thanks for that link. I have no clue what type of adhesive would be used to make those rock planters but they sure are amazing!
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Name: Clint Brown
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clintbrown
Mar 9, 2012 12:20 PM CST
I'm going to try and make a small one tonight. I think I can figure it out. I'll go to the store and look for water proof glue. LOL.
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plantladylin
Mar 9, 2012 12:29 PM CST
Thumbs up Clint, I hope you will consider posting a step by step tutorial ... or maybe write an article with a tutorial. Smiling They really are great looking planters!
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Name: Clint Brown
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clintbrown
Mar 9, 2012 12:34 PM CST
I will if I can make it work. We'll have to leave it out in the weather and see if the glue holds. That's my only concern. I have rocks already. I'm sure if that lady figured it out, we can too!
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Mar 9, 2012 12:42 PM CST
I am not an expert but have used adhesives in my art projects.
My first thought was an epoxy.
My second thought was a adhesive I use E 1000
i HAVE NEVER USED THIS SO i GOOGLED IT AND THIS IS WHAT i FOUND
http://www.superiorstoneproducts.com/adhesives/products/epox...
sorry about tyhe caps I am on my way out for the afternoon.
I have used GOOP and Silicone Sealer but dont know if it would work on a big project.
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Trish
Mar 9, 2012 1:00 PM CST

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These are wonderful! Clint- I can't wait to see the results of your experiment!!

My first thought was the E1000 as well.
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Mar 9, 2012 1:09 PM CST
Clint: You could also ask over on the Garden Art Forum: http://garden.org/forums/view/gardenart/ for suggestions on adhesive. There are some talented folks over there and someone might just know which type would work best for stone!
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woofie
Mar 9, 2012 1:25 PM CST
I wonder if silicon seal or one of the latex substitutes would work? They are intended for use around water, after all.
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ge1836
Mar 9, 2012 3:29 PM CST
I made pottery for years. I used silicone to mend cracks. I lso had a 2 part epoxy that was like putty,it could be wedged into a solid that I could shape into things. I'm not sure it would apply for this stone planter project but its info .others might use.
Google it see wht comes up.
Name: Clint Brown
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clintbrown
Mar 9, 2012 3:52 PM CST
Thanks. I tried Gorilla glue. It's too messy. I will look for the epoxy.
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ge1836
Mar 9, 2012 3:55 PM CST
Can you find the person who made the planter in the srticle ?
Ask them what they used?
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clintbrown
Mar 9, 2012 4:03 PM CST
I couldn't find her. I bet it's the epoxy. Gorilla glue will work but it's hard to use.
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ge1836
Mar 9, 2012 4:05 PM CST
i never suggested it for that reason. i have tried to use it and made a mess.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 10, 2012 1:39 AM CST

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Jo Ann, your link for the epoxy looks promising. That is what I think would work.
Those are sure interesting. I'm wondering if she used some thing as a form?
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ge1836
Mar 10, 2012 3:52 AM CST
I believe she needed a form. Weather the piece was built imside a box or outside a plastic form.
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woofie
Mar 10, 2012 8:59 AM CST
You could probably use a milk carton for a form.
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rcn48
Mar 10, 2012 10:38 AM CST
Smiling Clint, I've done something similar although most of my rocks were glued flat versus "standing". I've always loved the look of the standing rock planter pots but they're SO expensive. Thumbs down Here's the link for the method I tried: http://70.32.92.162/Pebble-Mosaic-Pots.html. I used Thinset Mortar to attach the rocks and it worked great, especially since it didn't set up as fast as the adhesive caulk the article suggests. The major problem I see with their directions is they didn't recommend sealing the terra cotta pot first? I sealed the outside of mine with a primer paint, an added plus was the primed surface gave a rougher surface for the Thinset to "grab". However, one year later I'm discovering cracking in the some of the grout between the pebbles and realize I should have sealed the interior of the pot as well. Sticking tongue out I think they'd actually be okay if you removed the soil over the winter and brought them inside. Unfortunately I forgot all about them and I think the wet soil freezing and thawing is causing the problems.

FYI, if you don't like the look of the grouted surface you can always decide not to finish with grout. The technique I've used to get as deep a groove as possible between the stones is to grout the whole thing and then use a toothbrush to remove the excess grout. Smiling Just make sure if you do decide to use Thinset mortar and/or grout, to use a penetrating sealer. Other sealers will provide protection but just form a coat on the surface and not "bond" properly.
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 10, 2012 1:16 PM CST

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Here is another link for using the epoxy. There are many other videos showing the many uses of this awesome material. Hurray!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VBhElfzopA

Hurray! Look what I found while searching for epoxy projects. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8qPAV-LDnM Lovey dubby
Name: woofie
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woofie
Mar 10, 2012 1:42 PM CST
OMG! Talk about a blast from the past! Hilarious! Think Dave might want to update the intro? Whistling
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