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Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
Mar 15, 2012 2:39 PM CST

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How is this for a weird one! Late last summer 'Baby Star' looked like it was getting ready to flower. It ended up getting buried by leaves and I hadn't seen it again until this week. It turned into a tree! There are two more in the same pot that also looked like they would flower, but they turned into "bushes". Hilarious! There are a few other ones that are normal though. I think they look pretty cool. Will be interesting to see what happens to them this summer.

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twitcher
Mar 16, 2012 7:39 AM CST
Love it. From time to time I see mine develop on top of a root and the dirt gets washed away from the thick root, but have never seen this.
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valleylynn
Mar 16, 2012 10:00 PM CST

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Chris that is so interesting. You could start a new fad. Sempervivum trees for miniature gardens. Thumbs up
I keep going back to look at it. Lovey dubby
Name: Chris
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goldfinch4
Mar 17, 2012 1:29 AM CST

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It does make it look like a bizarre desert scene or something.
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valleylynn
Mar 17, 2012 10:26 AM CST

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I just can't get over how cute it is. Truly a miniature garden prospect. Thumbs up
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goldfinch4
Mar 17, 2012 10:33 AM CST

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Too bad there isn't some way to get them to grow like that on purpose - and never flower!
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valleylynn
Mar 17, 2012 10:35 AM CST

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Hmmmm.
Maybe we should put our thinking caps on. Green Grin!
Even if they only lasted for a couple of years.

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twitcher
Mar 17, 2012 11:32 AM CST
Take a 1+ y/o well grown rosette with a thick root. Remove any stolons on it, but hopefully it hasn't produced offsets. Dig it up and removed any dead leaves and plant only the bottom inch of the stem, so the rosette is sticking up in the ground. Let grow a couple of weeks to establish, then cut the top of the rosette off and remove any remaining leaves, carefully pulling them off. You will be left with the " stump trunk" of the tree and the top of the trunk should sprout multiple new rosettes.

You will need to select the rosette carefully from those varieties that tend to have thick roots, smaller rosettes, and that tend to hold the rosettes closer to the stem and don't produce long stolons. Should work, but will likely need some experimentation to find the right variety and correct timing. This kind of surgery will likely put the plant back a bit, so it might last a couple of years. It might be necessary to cut the top of the "tree" off each year. It might also be necessary to remove the medium from around the root during the first or second year, before the surgery, to encourage upward growth of stem and root.
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valleylynn
Mar 17, 2012 12:36 PM CST

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Hurray! I knew twit would come up with a plan. Smiling
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goldfinch4
Mar 17, 2012 12:43 PM CST

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OK, so who is going to try it?
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twitcher
Mar 17, 2012 2:03 PM CST
Let's id some possible candidates by noting 1) thick roots and stems, 2) short stolons and 3) smaller rosettes as we work with our plants.

I'm sure we could also do some grafting among/between semps, but not sure why one would want to.

BTW, I might have asked before, but anyone see a Fame Monstrose bloom - how long do these live if they don't bloom?
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valleylynn
Mar 17, 2012 7:44 PM CST

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That's a good question twit. I don't know that we have had anyone post about their Fame Monstrose blooming. Confused
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goldfinch4
Mar 18, 2012 1:25 AM CST

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I don't remember any conversations about that either.
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twitcher
Mar 18, 2012 6:28 AM CST
Well, if it ever does bloom, even if its a "normal" hen, I think it would be important to collect and plant the seed. Might see some very interesting offspring, especially if pollen from a non-Fame parent.
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valleylynn
Mar 18, 2012 8:59 AM CST

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I wonder if Erwin has ever seen one blooming?
I'll email him and ask.
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sandnsea2
May 1, 2012 3:49 PM CST
goldfinch4 said:How is this for a weird one! Late last summer 'Baby Star' looked like it was getting ready to flower. It ended up getting buried by leaves and I hadn't seen it again until this week. It turned into a tree! There are two more in the same pot that also looked like they would flower, but they turned into "bushes". Hilarious! There are a few other ones that are normal though. I think they look pretty cool. Will be interesting to see what happens to them this summer.

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What cute topiaries, Chris!
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goldfinch4
May 1, 2012 4:35 PM CST

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I'll have to take an updated picture and post it.
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goldfinch4
May 3, 2012 2:24 PM CST

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The Baby Star "tree" is starting to tip over from being top heavy. I have it propped up with a stone. The hens are starting to have chicks on it too. Sure is a strange little plant!

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sandnsea2
May 3, 2012 2:33 PM CST
So interesting, Chris! Thumbs up
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 4, 2012 1:59 PM CST

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It looks like a miniature bouquet. Lovey dubby

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