Plant ID forum: An evergreen thorny this time

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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Mar 15, 2012 6:39 PM CST
These photos were taken 1/28/12, zone 8, north central Florida. The first photo shows the entire plant which is about 3' high at this point but I feel it's a young plant. It mainly has one upright skinny stem presently. It's thorny & evergreen. Growing at the base of a wild persimmon which is the trunk you see & some dormant beauty berry are behind it on the other side of the persimmon. In the very last photo I am showing the tip top of the main stem --- this was after a hard frost hit us.

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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Mar 15, 2012 7:15 PM CST

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Makes me think of Vaccinium... Does this ever make berries?
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Mar 15, 2012 7:19 PM CST
I have no idea ..... yet. I'm keeping an eye on it. I first saw it around maybe June & I did check for any signs of prior fruiting or even blooms & saw none but it's a young plant I'm sure of that so was not surprised I could find no evidence of blooms or fruit. I'll check out the Vaccinium. See if I can get any ideas.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Mar 15, 2012 7:23 PM CST
Do any of them have thorns?
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
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dave
Mar 15, 2012 7:31 PM CST

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They sure do, many of them.
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Mar 15, 2012 7:47 PM CST
I didn't know that. Learn something new everyday. Thumbs up
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Mar 18, 2012 7:22 AM CST
Here are some additional photos I took yesterday. I would note that I observed leaf buds & stems growing out of the actual thorns themselves. My camera is not capable of getting super, super close ups of small details but you can make it out in this photo.

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These leaves are 2" in length.

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JRsbugs
Mar 18, 2012 8:34 AM CST
To me, this has the habit of Berberis, can't be sure though.

Berberis thunbergii is close, and on the map not far from you.

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=BETH&photoID=beth...

Berberis aristata is similar too, they don't have to be native as seed can be carried by birds.

http://www.motherherbs.com/berberis-aristata.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berberis_aristata

Best wait for flowers I think.
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Mar 18, 2012 11:05 AM CST
I agree.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Region: Florida Dog Lover Birds
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 14, 2012 10:40 AM CST
No sign of flower buds yet. Just thought I would add this photo for future. In this photo you can see the tiny leaf emerging from the thorn. The thorns start out as normal looking thorns & then they elongate & new leaves emerge near the tips of the thorn & they in turn grow into new leaved stems & so forth. Compare the thorn with leaf emerging with the thorn to the left of it.


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I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



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