Trees and Shrubs forum: Evergreen shrubs

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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Mar 30, 2010 10:48 AM CST
Coniferous (needle foliage and cone bearing), as well as broad leaved evergreen shrubs are an important aspect to the home landscape. They provide year round interest, and help create the "skeleton" of your garden design. There are a wide variety of textures, sizes, and colors among evergreen shrubs on the market today, so many in fact, that a lovely garden can be designed using only evergreen shrubs.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
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stormyla
Jul 13, 2010 6:03 PM CST
Even though I grow many conifers, it is the broadleaf evergreen shrubs that are my true loves. Coincidentally, the broadleaf evergreen shrubs seem to be well suited to my soil and environment.
Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Jul 15, 2010 9:21 AM CST
Stormy, do you have acidic soil in your area? Seems most of the broad leafed evergreens prefer acid.

I need to get a few specimen type evergreens in the garden, it needs more winter interest. I'd love to install an elaborate shrub border, with lots of varying colors and textures and shapes.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Val
Ohio (Zone 5b)
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Val
Jul 15, 2010 10:23 AM CST
The only evergreen that we have is a columnar boxwood. I wish I had more but I can only have plants that can take ALOT of clay. Suggestions are very welcome. I especially like the broadleaf evergreens too.

This is Buxus sempervirens ‘Monrue’ (aka Green Tower Boxwood) that was planted in 2007. The pic was taken last week. They've done very well but I would love to have more evergreens in the yard. Ideas??????

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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jul 15, 2010 2:51 PM CST
Those are so pretty, Val! I really love those, do they stay fairly small?

I think variety of overall shapes, sizes, and textures is the most important thing to keep in mind. A balanced combination of broadleaf and coniferous shrubs along with blooming and deciduous shrubs and ornamental grasses are some of the prettiest gardens I've seen.

Val, do you have some pics of the yard where you're thinking of adding some? That would be great to see, and will spawn ideas.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Stormy
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stormyla
Jul 15, 2010 6:28 PM CST
Neal, I have to be truthful and say that I've never had the soil here tested and I'm sure that there are very different PH levels in different parts of my yard. But in general, since Mountain Laurel is the Pa state flower and they and wild Rhododendrons grow in all of our woods, I would have to surmise that the soil in this area is fairly acidic. Our soil is generally red clay.
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jul 16, 2010 5:11 AM CST
That's what I typically use as a guide to tell me the ph too, the native flora.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Stormy
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stormyla
Jul 16, 2010 5:54 AM CST
Val, Mahonias are one of my favorites. They do need some shade.

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Name: Neal Linville
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gemini_sage
Jul 16, 2010 6:10 AM CST
Thanks for reminding me of Mahonia! I have a perfect spot for one, a place where something would look good, but I need something low maintenance and sturdy. The blooms are yellowish aren't they? That would be perfect, as it would be a background for part of the blue, white, and yellow garden. Its on the northeast side of the house, so the partial shade will make it happy too.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
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stormyla
Jul 16, 2010 6:42 AM CST
Yes, Neal They are yellow. I have some photos of them on my other computer. The blooms on this variety are fairly small. This is a very sturdy shrub. Northeast is almost exactly what this one gets. Smiling
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Jul 17, 2010 8:50 AM CST
That mahonia is gorgeous, Stormy!
Name: Val
Ohio (Zone 5b)
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Val
Jul 17, 2010 11:36 AM CST
That mahonia is beautiful. I tried to look up mahonia and found that there are all kinds. Which kind is that? The ones I looked up like acidic soil so I couldn't have them here (drats). But maybe I could have the kind that you have---if I could figure out a way to give it shade. I have an area on the west side of the house that gets morning shade but then it gets afternoon sun and the heat reflecting from the afternoon sun from the brick house.

I don't have a particular area that I want to put evergreens in. I'd like to sprinkle small ones (prefer columnar ones) throughout the gardens for winter interest. In general, my gardens are alkaline, full sun, and small. I only have one-fifth of an acre here so I like shrubs that grow taller than they are wide. Once you subtract for my house, detached garage, and walkways, the gardening areas are rather small.

The boxwood that I have is supposed to have a mature size of about 2 feet wide and about 8 feet tall. They were planted in 2007 and right now they are about 5 feet tall and 14 inches wide (I just measured). I know they like a bit of shade but they're doing well in full sun. Even though they don't have any protection from winter winds, they get very little burn.
Name: Stormy
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stormyla
Jul 17, 2010 12:37 PM CST
Thanks, Polly.

Val, I bought that Mahonia as an untagged distressed plant marked down at Walmart, so don't know the variety. It looked so close to dead, but revived and has grown wonderfully.

Hmmm, there are some tall thin Ilex like Sky Pencil and Daphnes like Mezereum. Be careful with Daphnes, not all are evergreen. They have varying degrees of Ph needs. I can't think of ,much else other than conifers which are columner in shape.
Name: Stormy
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stormyla
Jul 17, 2010 3:21 PM CST
Neal, Here is the photo of that Mahonia in bloom towards late March. This was taken before I pruned off the damage from the last 3 weeks of ice that covered this plant. These blooms are small, but still nice to have at that time of year.

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Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
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stormyla
Jul 19, 2010 5:46 PM CST
Some of my favorite Broadleaf evergreens are Rhodos, Azaleas, Euonymous, Daphnes, Kalmias, Camellias, Pieris, Leucanthoe, Mahonia, Magnolia. Not all varieties of each of these are evergreen. Nor do all of them do well for me. I have a beautiful tri-colored Leucanthoe that is always struggling. The voles may be eating it and it might do better if moved. I've lost 2 nice Pieris and may try another in the fall in a different location.

I moved a Daphne last year that was struggling, and it virtually tripled in size in it's new location, but now it's suffering. I also moved one Camellia last fall and it overwintered and bloomed really well, but now it looks like it's become a victim of this drought. There's one Kalmia that was in too dry and shady a spot, so I moved it two springs ago. At first it really responded well, but now it's suffering. This drought has been very hard on the shrubs.

I also have some evergreen Viburnum Prague. Another evergreen favorite of mine is Skimmia. One of mine now is under attack by a stubborn case of scale.
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jul 20, 2010 6:38 AM CST
Stormy, I'd love to know more about what Camelia varieties are hardy for you. I've always longed to grow Camelias!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
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stormyla
Jul 20, 2010 10:38 AM CST
Neal, They are all the cold hardy Ackerman Hybrids. I have purchased them mostly from Greer Gardens. GG has a good selection and offers a replacement policy for failed plants. It's not cheap for me to have them shipped all the way across the country, but I really love them.

Camellias come in two types, the fall/winter bloomers and the spring bloomers. Most of mine are the spring bloomers, mostly because I like red blooming Camellias and there don't seem to be any reds among the fall bloomers. Last year, I did find a neat new one at a local Nursery, but I've been having to treat that one constantly for a spotted fungus.

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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Jul 20, 2010 10:48 AM CST
What zone are you, Mary?

I might try one of the Ackerman Camellias in a very sheltered location. I've been reading about them.
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
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stormyla
Jul 20, 2010 12:22 PM CST
Polly, Zone 6, the warmer one. Mine are sheltered from the winds.
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Jul 20, 2010 6:23 PM CST
Oh my, I'm drooling and swooning! Does it smell as lovely as it looks? I kinda think spring bloomers may be best for us zone pushers, I'm thinking fall and winter blooms may just get frozen.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi

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