Plumeria forum: when or should I re pot gang pots??

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Name: Michael Hicks
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chefmike92
Apr 21, 2012 2:50 PM CST
I was going to ask in tree mail but i think every one can benefit from this question......

I "gang" potted cuttings to root many are showing leaves. there is only about 4 in potting mix in the 25 gal pot when should i re pot them?
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Most concerned with the one up front but i have 10 of these pots and i have to "obtain" some more to individually plant them!!! i need i think about ohhhhh150 more pots Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing i ordered this winter 150 1 gal pots and 75 3 gal pots and "obtained" about 100 2 gal pots and 100 gal pots AND 40 3 gal we wont discuss the larger ones but largest was a 90 gal pot!!!! sold lot of them!

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gingin
Apr 21, 2012 3:48 PM CST
Oh my goodness!!!! are you sitting on hundreds of acres?? Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Michael Hicks
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chefmike92
Apr 21, 2012 4:12 PM CST
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THIS IS WHY I SAY WIL IS A SAINT TO PUT UP WITH MY CIAOS OF PLANTS CAN YOU IMAGING HOW IT IS IN MY CONCISENESS Confused
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Name: tarev
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tarev
Apr 21, 2012 4:13 PM CST
Awww..they look so happy to be repotted Big Grin
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Apr 21, 2012 4:14 PM CST

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Mike, as soon as you have a full 'head' of leaves, it's time to give it its own pot.
Name: Michael Hicks
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chefmike92
Apr 21, 2012 4:19 PM CST
OK you confer mend my nightmare just a few days with the rain we just got.

1 gal ok for small and 3 gal ok for the large?


time to buy more potting mix im to stubborn to have a dump truck bring me anything so i tote from HD or LWS.
thanks Hetty
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Apr 21, 2012 4:25 PM CST

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Yes, those sizes are right. Honestly, Mike, get bulk soil....
Name: Michael Hicks
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chefmike92
Apr 21, 2012 4:32 PM CST
you think.......i hate to guess how many trips and how much i have spent and will spend....thanks
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Apr 21, 2012 5:20 PM CST

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Mike those variegated plumeria are finally waking up... Smiling

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Mangogirl
Apr 21, 2012 5:46 PM CST
Mike,

Just in case you didn't know, Lowes is a recycle center for plastic pots and plant containers. I take mine there all the time - and sometimes I just "trade" in the ones I brought for the size I need. It is a win-win - you get the pots you need and Lowes doesn't have to handle the recycling. The collecting rack is usually near the back or the side-back of the Garden Center. And it is usually one of those rolling racks with multiple shelves. I feel pretty sure that you could have whatever pots you want from the recycle rack, but maybe double check with a clerk. And if you are buying soil or something, I would definitely think they wouldn't mind you taking some of the recycle pots. The manager at mine never minds at all if I take some.

Hope this helps,
Carol
Name: Brian
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bearsearch
Apr 21, 2012 9:27 PM CST
Dutchlady1 said:Mike, as soon as you have a full 'head' of leaves, it's time to give it its own pot.


So Hetty you are saying then the best time to transplant plumeria is DURING active growth NOT when dormant? Or have I got that wrong?

Brian
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Apr 22, 2012 4:50 AM CST

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Mike is wanting to repot them from his 'gang rooting' pot (where they are all huddling together making roots) and was asking when it is time to give them their own pot (as in: are rooted). That is usually indicated by vigorous leaf growth.

If you want to move an existing (already rooted) plant outside, or step up from one size pot to the next, it is recommended to do this in the dormant stage or when they are just breaking dormancy so you don't break off too many of the feeder roots in the process.

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Mangogirl
Apr 22, 2012 7:08 AM CST
ChefMike,

I can't believe your photos above! WOW! That is a lot of plants! When do you have time to cook? And to run co-ops? I bet it is just gorgeous around your home - what an incredible collection.

By the way, every time my eye first catches your avatar of your cute puppy, my brain processes it as a baby seal!

Carol
Name: Michael Hicks
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chefmike92
Apr 22, 2012 1:05 PM CST
thanks

well sense i have had my car accident a year ago i have not been able to return to work then had spinal fusion surgery in dec and had to have something to do. it does get challenging at times with so many plants truly they just exploded last year!!! when i return to work will be the test how to manage it all with working 8 hrs a day

that is chip our dog SO very smart i know she understands English!! we saved her from going to the pound I think she was abused as a puppy and now she has a VERY GOOD LIFE!! has us wrapped around her toe...LOL

Our dog is we think 7 yrs old starting to show little age but she is our baby girl!!!

mike
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Apr 27, 2012 8:36 AM CST
Wow!! Mike, I know you are a Chef by trade, but gee ... it looks like you are in the plant nursery business!! Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up I know from experience how much work tending so many plants can be, and I haven't had a paying job in almost 20 years! I'm getting old and I have downsized a lot but even with the plants I still have it seems like a full time job ... I can't imagine tending to that number of plants and working 8 hour days too ... that would be way too much stress for this ole' gal!


Hetty: I've been meaning to ask you about the one Plumeria I have left and since Mike's thread is regarding transplanting/repotting I figured I'd post a picture and ask you here instead of starting another thread. Hope you don't mind Mike ... I can remove this part of my post if necessary.

Anyhow ... I've had this Plumie for a few years, started from a little stick. It's usually fully leafed out by now but for some reason this year it's still bare of any sign of leaves. Confused I've thought about planting it in the ground in a protected area of the yard but can't decide for sure if I want to go that route since it seems our winters are getting colder every year! This plant is root bound in the current container so if I don't put it in the ground I need to find a larger pot or do some root pruning and give it fresh potting medium ... just wondering what you think? Any idea why it may still be leafless? I don't know much at all about Plumeria other than that I love, love, love the beautiful fragrant blooms and I'd hate to lose this plant. The others were quite small that I gave to neighbors before I moved and theirs have all leafed out already.

This plant is usually completely leafed out and has blooms by the first week of May so I'm hoping nothing is wrong and maybe it's just a little slow this year for some reason. These pictures were taken May 3rd last year:
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And, how it looks today ... no sign of a leaf whatsoever:
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Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
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chefmike92
Apr 27, 2012 2:09 PM CST
plantladylin said:Wow!! Mike, I know you are a Chef by trade, but gee ... it looks like you are in the plant nursery business!! Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up I know from experience how much work tending so many plants can be, and I haven't had a paying job in almost 20 years! I'm getting old and I have downsized a lot but even with the plants I still have it seems like a full time job ... I can't imagine tending to that number of plants and working 8 hour days too ... that would be way too much stress for this ole' gal!


Hetty: I've been meaning to ask you about the one Plumeria I have left and since Mike's thread is regarding transplanting/repotting I figured I'd post a picture and ask you here instead of starting another thread. Hope you don't mind Mike ... I can remove this part of my post if necessary.

Anyhow ... I've had this Plumie for a few years, started from a little stick. It's usually fully leafed out by now but for some reason this year it's still bare of any sign of leaves. Confused I've thought about planting it in the ground in a protected area of the yard but can't decide for sure if I want to go that route since it seems our winters are getting colder every year! This plant is root bound in the current container so if I don't put it in the ground I need to find a larger pot or do some root pruning and give it fresh potting medium ... just wondering what you think? Any idea why it may still be leafless? I don't know much at all about Plumeria other than that I love, love, love the beautiful fragrant blooms and I'd hate to lose this plant. The others were quite small that I gave to neighbors before I moved and theirs have all leafed out already.

This plant is usually completely leafed out and has blooms by the first week of May so I'm hoping nothing is wrong and maybe it's just a little slow this year for some reason. These pictures were taken May 3rd last year:
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And, how it looks today ... no sign of a leaf whatsoever:
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I want to but in some.....first you are more then welcome posting here i was going to treemail Hetty and decided its a topic that others can benefit that why we are here right!!!
2nd Yes i am a chef by trade BUT i have had a car accident and have been out of work for little more then a year, I did have surgery in dec and when i started getting better i dove in to plants BIG time and it is a chore BUT most of my plants require the same care which makes it easier.

Now im going to take a stab at you plant it looks like a few of the tips are good and green which is a great sign. i dont see anything that would be a bad sign. if the plant is root bound I would personalty re pot ASAP and just be carefully to try not to break roots off. New soil would be a big benefit. you can plant in ground as long as it drains well. you can dig up every year or try to protect in the ground when its frost or freezes.

You can also re-pot in larger pot and sink in to the ground. this is what i have done so i can pull the pot out and keep the main root-ball in tact. I try to use 2 pots one as a sleeve and i can lift in and out easier. the roots will grow out of the holes and seek more room i9 pot extra holes and larger ones in the pots so they can

now about your plumeria has it been in the sun and has it gotten watered? i have 40 plants that are 20 of one 20 of the other kind and of the 40 all are growing great and full but 2 are not but i know that the tips are turning and getting ready to leaf out. some are suborn.

Wait see what Hetty saids and if im even close!!!

Now i will wait to see Hettys suggestions to see if im learning and getting to know these plants!!!

mike
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Apr 27, 2012 9:06 PM CST

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I think water may be an issue. Also, that is a small pot for that size plant. I personally would put it in the ground, and you know you can store them barerooted in the winter?
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plantladylin
Apr 28, 2012 8:27 AM CST
Thanks you two! The pot is too small for the root system of this plant ... roots have been growing out the drainage holes for the past couple of years so it's probably way past time to get it out of that container! I still haven't decided if I want to find it a permanent place in ground or keep it as a container plant but it will probably be the latter so that if we do have extended cold during the winter I can move it into the house or garage. I've seen a very large Plumeria tree in a yard here in town, on the south side of the house and it's been there for quite a few years ... seems to have come through our cold winters just fine but they have a lot of big trees in the yard which probably gives it some protection from frost and they cover the Plumeria with blankets on cold nights.

Hetty: You are correct regarding water issues. It's been very dry here for awhile now ... we finally got a nice rain about a week ago but we've been in extreme drought conditions and I was not watering anything regularly. The sprinkler timers are now fixed so they get water twice a week when the lawn is irrigated ... maybe I will see a change and signs of leaf growth soon! I think next week I will try to find a larger container and mix up some fresh potting medium and re-pot it. I will keep you posted!

Thanks again for the tips!! Thumbs up
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Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Apr 28, 2012 8:40 AM CST

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Lin - again: If you plant it in the ground it is not a huge job to pull it out in the fall and store bare rooted in the garage or similar place. The plant will thank you.
A pot bound plant will not be able to take up water or nutrients sufficiently. People tend to forget these are meant to be trees....

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Mangogirl
Apr 28, 2012 8:54 AM CST
Hetty,

I sink mine into the ground in generous-sized pots. Do you think next year I can forgo the pots and just plant them directly in the ground? Will they be just about the same effort to lift?

I don't have any choice here in Jacksonville. I get 2+ HARD freezes at my house every year. The plumeria have to be lifted and brought into the garage.

Carol

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