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Apr 22, 2012 6:56 PM CST
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Apr 22, 2012 7:32 PM CST
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No suggestions, bu WOWSA! What a stunning piece! Thumbs up
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Apr 22, 2012 7:43 PM CST
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Apr 24, 2012 3:38 AM CST
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I would go to a home store and ask them what product to use for glueing pavers on top of each other. I was watching yard chashers on DYI and they were putting the top pieces of stone on a wall and used something in a caulking gun under each stone to keep it in place. Another thought is using a piece of stone from a stone yard that would be the right demension for your base it would certainly be stable. Love your statue it will look very nice in your garden.
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Apr 24, 2012 4:26 AM CST
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Thanks, I have Loctite for masonry which is what they used at the place where we purchased the statue.
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Apr 24, 2012 6:55 AM CST
Name: Gordon
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oh..nice piece is it painted .. it would give me some idea as to the material... so.. when you said locktite.. I was hoping you were talking their construction adheasive.. and the one for masonary is of that order... however as you saw it got knocked off.. a poor choice really.. it should have a broad base to keep it upright.. looks like about 5-7ft tall..? anyone pushing or bumping it.. with that much of a lever action of a 5-7ft distance will flip it... with out a very broad base of support... if it was firmly attached.. which that construction adheasive will never provide over time on that small oval bottom.. [ not a bad piece name either..woops... Whistling sorry ]
so ..look for that hole..if not.. perhaps you could make one in it.. masonary drill 1/2-3/4" in about 8-12" into the bottom...in your ground hole.. then depending on your soil.. likely sandy there you need to anchor it to the ground... a post hole digger or by hand.. dig down maybe 18"- 2 ft pound a bit of rebar--steel pipe a bit smaller than the hole you made in the bottom.. down into your ground hole.. then cast concrete around it..if you wish the sculpture to sit above the ground you need a form the shape you'd like to see as the base sitting on the ground.. that height.. positioned so the rod will place the sculpture in the right place on the pad.. if you are thinking of a base for it.. just to raise it up.. and not necessarly as an elemment of it's viewing.. you can form an eliptical form with the same profile as the sculpture to raise it up a bit... [ why do you wish to raise it up off the ground a few inches ..anyway.. not that you shouldn't ]
then you've got a chance of keeping it upright in high winds and casual bumping.. and even through light vandalism.. then slip the sculpture on the rod .. and mount with epoxy .. or setting concrete in the hole of the piece....keeping it upright till it sets up..
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Apr 24, 2012 8:01 AM CST
Name: Charleen
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Sounds like Gordon is the man to help....
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Apr 24, 2012 8:37 AM CST
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It looks to be polished granite, though I can't see it well enough to know.
Alabaster??
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Apr 24, 2012 9:08 AM CST
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It is a stone called 'Serpentine' and the type is called 'Opal Camouflage' - this I have learned in the past day. Not painted,that is the natural stone.
Gordon, thank you, I am going to discuss this with my DH. And btw the piece is about 4 ft tall, so not as grandiose as you make it sound LOL.
Not sure I want him to go drilling a hole in it, though....
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Apr 24, 2012 9:18 AM CST
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Is there a hole there??? Maybe he won't have to drill...
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Apr 24, 2012 9:25 AM CST
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No hole - we looked Glare
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Apr 24, 2012 9:57 AM CST
Name: Charleen
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ut-oh!!!! Durn, Just have to build a good brace around it to hold it down...
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Apr 24, 2012 10:07 AM CST
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Pouring a bit of a foundation with concrete is the way to go, in my opinion. Gordon is right: dig down with a posthole digger and mix up some quikrete. You can make it so that the entire foundation is below grade, and then put your stepping stones on top of the foundation. But this will be much more secure than setting the stones on the ground (where it can sink).
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Apr 24, 2012 10:14 AM CST
Name: Sharon
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Hetty, we might be worrying unnecessarily.

Looking at the structure of the sculpture, the weight of it is pretty well in its base. The way it's sculpted, with the opening as I see it in the middle, will mean that the winds will blow through it. There isn't enough solid area of the serpentine to block the force of the wind and take the brunt of that force, which is what would blow it over.

I'm not sure about hurricane force winds, but just looking at it with its open middle and its heavy base, I'm thinking it might stand alone fairly well. Most of the time sculptors consider this when creating a carved piece. The rhythm of the design might take the force of the wind and disperse it. However, it does have to be set upon something solid that won't shift and move. Sand would shift and move. A thick heavy base might help prevent that movement, with lengths of rebar through the base and deep into the ground on which it sits. If the base doesn't shift, then the 'glued' piece of serpentine should not shift either.

I'm not a physicist, but I know about sculpting and the way the wind breaks its force when it can't get through something. If the base is heavy enough, it will hold itself up.

Something to think about.
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Apr 24, 2012 10:15 AM CST
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We crossed while I was thinking, Dave, but yes to what you say as well.
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Apr 24, 2012 10:39 AM CST
Name: Gordon
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it's soft... drilling isn't a problem... lay it down on a towel and slowly drill in with a small carbide drill.. then increse the drill size... dribbling water on the drill while moving it and out to keep the hole wet/slick/and cool is always helpful...
here's a few care tips... if it is indeed serpintine...
http://www.baneclene.com/artic...
I was going to tell you that my foundtion was a bare minimum for it... but as it's smaller... it's likely about right ..you could also decrease the depth of the hole in the piece to maybe 4-5 " now Dia down to maybe 3/8-1/2"
it would surely break apart if it fell over... then when you epoxied it back together .. it would have more of a veining look like marble..
it looks sweet though... congratulations... beauty and a joy forever
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Apr 24, 2012 10:51 AM CST
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Modern Shona artisans select and quarry their own stones, just as their ancestors did thousands of years ago. Statues are hand-carved using simple chisels, polished with sand and beeswax, and heated on a fire to bring out their brilliant colors.
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Apr 24, 2012 11:11 AM CST
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Thanks all, I have a lot to go on now. Discussing with DH later today....
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Apr 27, 2012 11:05 AM CST
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My hubby has been doing prop for some hanging baskets..maybe you can do something similar..I just do not know how heavy your statue is..if you have a more even place to put it in...I have such a small place so I have to confine any structure within the perimeter of a planter Big Grin Obviously your statue will be heavier, but you can try doing this post pedestal, using quick dry cement..or maybe reinfornce some more underneath with some pavers.
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We got this really heavy water feature, but it came with the equally heavy stand. Maybe some water feature sellers may have a similar stand you can use for your statue.

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Apr 28, 2012 4:03 PM CST
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Statue has been placed. The base consists of three paving stones cemented on top of each other. I decided I did not want it any higher. I am very pleased with the result. Here is the view from my lanai.
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