Roses forum: Vintage Gardens Order

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Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses
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Steve812
May 3, 2012 1:08 PM CST
I was impressed with my Vintage Gardens order. Of course the roses were all bands. That limited the possible size of the roses. Still, for bands they are pretty well developed roses. Of the thirty roses shipped, I think more than twenty were at least 14" tall and had at least two pencil-sized canes. The soil around the roots in every case held together completely as I was planting the roses. And at the moment they arrived, I think they just about doubled the number of buds in the garden. Looping - one of the roses in the shipment - is the only rose blooming in my garden right now.

There were a couple exceptions. Apricot Nectar and Campanile barely measure 6" in height, but they were clearly pruned to that height for some reason. So maybe they will recover quickly.

I am really happy that I took delivery this late in the spring planting season. These roses are growing like topsy and a frost would kill them instantly. Three years ago when I took my first deliveries of roses here from VG, they would have arrived in early April, if I remember correctly. They would almost certainly have been exposed to frost. A subsequent delivery was in fall. I have learned that roses planted in fall here fail. It's just what happens. So it seems that part of the reason for my failure with VG roses has been attributable to my own lack of knowledge in when to take delivery.

Of course some of the problem - especially early on when all sorts of critters were using my garden as a primary source of food - was that small roses got nibbled to death early in spring. Last year I requested that all roses they send me be 14" high at a minimum. They honored that request and some of the roses I love best survive from that shipment: Nouveau Monde, Centenaire des Lourdes, Coral Crown, Parfait, and Geisha. Interestingly, it looks like they did that again this year. Two of the roses on my order they are holding for a few weeks in order that they reach that size.

I truly don't know what's going to happen next. I've planted this year's shipment in 50% potting soil and am feeling very hopeful about them. It almost seems silly to expect many of them to survive, but right now everything in the garden is looking wonderful including the roses from VG. There is no hint of frost in the weather forecast for two weeks out. And frost rarely hits here in May. So maybe I'll be able to nurse them along until they get well established.
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Name: Cindi
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CindiKS
May 3, 2012 2:33 PM CST
How many did they substitute?
Your wonderful description makes me want to go ahead with my order.
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Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses
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Steve812
May 3, 2012 3:09 PM CST
I now check the NO SUBSTITUTIONS box each time I order from them. I've just always been disappointed when the alternative rose showed up instead of the one I really wanted. I get almost as good a deal by just using my ARS membership and getting ten percent off. There were two roses in an order of thirty two that were just struck from the order. Not bad.

In fact, I was so happy with this order that I immediately started working on my second spring order with them. It started with trying to figure out how to use the credit for two roses. Before long I realized that I just wanted more roses. I still have to place it, but I do owe Gita an answer about what to do with the credit. I'll probably repent of this silly rosemania by this time next year, but right now I'm kind of enjoying it.
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
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Skiekitty
May 3, 2012 3:19 PM CST
Wow! Pix? What I did with a couple of teenies from RU is I made a "rose collar" around them (I got a 2gal plant bucket, chopped the bottom off, put the bucket around the plant, then filled it to the brim with mulch). Both my English Perfume & Pure Poetry survived that way. Looks like Twilight Tryst did not, though.. but I thought that rose was big enough that it didn't need the protection. I was wrong.

What I don't like is that every single rose I was looking at from VG was out of stock or only custom root. Beh!
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Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Roses
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Steve812
May 5, 2012 3:00 PM CST
On second thought...

I just finished squeezing my RVR order into the garden. I find that there are these places where shrub roses that are supposed to grow to five feet in height are planted less than three feet from a nearest neighbor. Maybe I need to wait at least until the end of the season to contemplate getting more roses. Maybe some rose that I really don't like will die and need to be replaced. Can't think of an example. I'm guessing both own-root Don Juan roses are on their way out, though. Probably be replaced by Sympathie from Palatine.
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Charter ATP Member Irises Salvias Xeriscape Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Procrastinator The WITWIT Badge Region: Colorado Enjoys or suffers cold winters Cat Lover
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Skiekitty
May 5, 2012 10:05 PM CST
Squish 'em in! Yay!! There's ALWAYS room for one more rose!! Seriously!!
Roses are one of my passions! Just opened, my Etsy shop (to fund my rose hobby)! http://www.etsy.com/shop/TweetsnTreats

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