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Name: Kathy
Western MA

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boojum
Jul 12, 2010 9:49 AM CST
Anyone for scale info???
http://nathist.sdstate.edu/orchids/pests/scales.htm
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
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sugarcane
Aug 25, 2010 2:51 PM CST
I knew it would happen...I must have brought home some hitch hikers...mealy bugs, now they've spread ( of course!) on to the phals..
I have separated the plants, I have wiped down the leaves with alcohol being careful to get down into the nooks and crannies, is there
anything else I should be doing? chemicals, fire, trash bin?
lindsey
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Ursula
Aug 25, 2010 5:28 PM CST

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Lindsey, it depends on the severity of the infestation. I don't worry about a couple of Mealies, I just wash them off. Really heavy infestations are another matter.
Good info, Kathy!
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
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sugarcane
Aug 25, 2010 5:44 PM CST
Thanks Ursula, I'm not sure how to classify the severity, one is too many! Hilarious!
lindsey
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Sep 2, 2010 2:52 PM CST
Lindsey, most of the Phals I bought from Lowes wound up having scale.
I just threw the ones away when I found the infestations were stubborn.
No sense having them travel to my healthy specimens.
I don't like using alot of chemicals, tho do use Insecticidal soap, occasionally, for those little fleas and it works well.
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
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sugarcane
Apr 27, 2011 4:49 PM CST
I've got ants!
Not in my pants ..but in my pots, on the shelves ..I
put some of the granular ant-be-gone type product on the gravel floor
but what to do about the ants in the pots? I have used this granular
product on my giant pots of annuals..just sprinkled it on and watered it in,
but can an orchid take this?
lindsey
Name: Kathy
Western MA

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boojum
Apr 27, 2011 5:01 PM CST
I have ants too and my traps do nothing. Little tiny guys. I squish them constantly. None are living in the pots though. I would like to hear what anyone has done for ants, too.
Name: Carol
Santa Ana,Ca. (Zone 10b)
Sunset zone 22
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ctcarol
Apr 27, 2011 5:37 PM CST
I'd like an answer to that too! I have used every bait on the market, and it just seems to attract more of them. To get them out of your pots you can set the pot in a larger bowl and slowly fill the bowl with water. If you give them a bridge, they will pack up their eggs and go. Now if I could just figure out how to keep them from returning....

It might be worth a try to use the granules on an orchid you wouldn't mind loosing, too much. If they set up housekeeping in a pot, they farm a fungus to eat that will completely block the drainage holes. I've lost a couple of Plants (not orchids) that way. Thumbs down
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
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sugarcane
Apr 27, 2011 5:41 PM CST
well I do have a few dozen of the $1.00 Phals from Lowe's that I could sacrifice in the name of 'better living with chemicals'
lindsey
Name: Carol
Santa Ana,Ca. (Zone 10b)
Sunset zone 22
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ctcarol
Apr 27, 2011 6:07 PM CST
Please, let us know if it works, without killing the plant! Hilarious!
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Ursula
Apr 27, 2011 6:08 PM CST

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Imidacloprid, available as Bayer's Advanced in different formulations works very well on Ants.

http://www.livingwithbugs.com/merit_insecticide.html
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
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sugarcane
Apr 27, 2011 7:05 PM CST
and you think it would be safe for the orchids?
lindsey
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Ursula
Apr 27, 2011 7:18 PM CST

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I have been using it as a drench/soak on my Cattleyas and Cymbidiums for years and I have used it for some "spot- cleaning" on others. I just picked up today a large bottle of the Bayer's Rose and Flower Care ( contains Insecticide, fungicide and fertilizer), so I am ready when I bring my plants outside. I will use it at 1 oz/gallon.
It is also excellent on Cacti and Succulents/ including Epiphyllums, Hoyas and Rhipsalis..

Here is the stuff I use
http://www.bayeradvanced.com/rose-flower-care/products/all-i...
Name: Kathy
Western MA

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boojum
Apr 27, 2011 7:39 PM CST
Oh I never thought to try it on ants!!
How often do you use it outside in summer? Do you spray them individually or as a group dowse?
Name: Ken
Fredericton, N.B. Canada
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Ironwood
Apr 27, 2011 7:52 PM CST
The Imidacloprid in the Bayer advantage used for flea protection on my cats is 9% and in the Bayer Rose and Flower Insect Killer I use on my plants the Imidacloprid is 0.0120%. I find it very effective for scale, aphids and thrips, but useless on white flies. I think the plants are getting a much better deal than the animals.
Name: Kathy
Western MA

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boojum
Apr 27, 2011 7:55 PM CST
I agree
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Ursula
Apr 27, 2011 8:08 PM CST

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Ken, thanks for mentioning the flea collar!
Kathy, I usually use it twice outside - when I bring them outside, I set groups of them on the lawn, inspect them, repot if needed, clean up and give them a good drench. Picture my Cattleyas, Laelias etc waiting in the queue as they await their treatment. Once done, I carry them into the cage.
In the Fall I reverse the procedure, except I leave them a couple of days outside before bringing them in.
I don't have anything written in stone, clean Orchids just get fertilized without treatment. I use it when needed during the Summer.

Name: Carol
Santa Ana,Ca. (Zone 10b)
Sunset zone 22
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ctcarol
Apr 27, 2011 8:38 PM CST
Ursula, do you feel the fertilizer in that product is good for your orchids? I switched to the Bayer Advanced Insect, disease, and Mite control, which is a spray, because the one for roses didn't do anything for the roses. At what rate do you use it on your orchids?
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Ursula
Apr 28, 2011 5:02 AM CST

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Carol, I don't know how good it is, that is kinda tough to gauge? I still fertilize with other stuff throughout the year. But I know it does work good enough on my Epis.
I use it at 1oz/gallon.
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 6b
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Ursula
Apr 28, 2011 5:11 PM CST

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I forgot to mention, scale magnets like Tolumnias and such get dumped into/soaked in a bucket with the stuff. That will keep them clean for some weeks.

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