Too bad I have no cliffs by the ocean! I have rocks though--
wonderful pics and I really would love for the one to grow on a mini-cliff--this one--
http://calscape.cnps.org/Dudle...
or do you think I should not even bother to torture it to death?
sometimes our winters don't get much below -10 for very long
and I've got a nice crevice in part summershade for it, on a warm rock in the winter