I live in the suburbs and have a house and barn with a nice backyard that is kinda woodsy. Every side of the house has different kinds of gardens, but the back is where I currently have my irises. It is in a sunny area where some trees needed to be removed. I have an old rock wall in the front where I plan on putting all of my SDBs. I haven't measured it yet, but it's at least 20 ft across. I have enough room right now for all of my irises, but I'm not willing to give up my lawn...yet. I'm planning on buying a farm in the next couple years, hopefully before they need dividing