I've tried everything over the years. Do not like to use systemics at all. Turns the plant into poison. Azamax just plain works. Birth control for bugs. It does not work on contact, you don't need to spray all the bugs. Makes the plant taste bad, stops the bugs from growing, reproducing. Works. And, I almost forgot, Azamax does not have any smell. The Garden Safe as a bit of a smell but not obnoxious. Great for indoor spraying. Gene