Larry - Thank you for sharing your experience. I have a hard time NOT pollinating blooms. If there are two different cultivar blooms of the same ploidy, then I have this obsession to cross them. It's hard to look away and not do so for me personally. And it drives me crazy to have a bloom and nothing to pollinate it with. I don't like self-pollinating a bloom. Most of the seedlings I get when doing that are often inferior plants.