Thank-you Kent, I shall google this. I also have a ? about this forum....I posted 3 threads about 3 different species of Solidago. I put the same message in all 3 posts because the message was the same BUT the pics were quite different...i.e. as one would if one were trying to identify 3 different species of anything. I can't find 2 of those posts now....should I assume they were removed? It took me a VERY long time to get them up because I have an extremely bad internet connection....so I'm not going to repost but were they removed?