Yes, please do move the thread back to the Adeniums forum, Dave. Other forums have off-topic threads within so I feel this one should be allowed to continue.
There are members who do not venture outside their comfort zone, as in the forum or thread they favor. The off-topic threads allow the members, if they so desire, to have a more close affinity and comfort in sharing with other members within the forum they are comfortable in. Sure, others lurk and that's good, even better if they post.