Correction on above post: Make that SILVER Summer's End, not plain ol' Summer's End. Judith describes them as outfacing white F1 hybrids from L.speciosum var. album.
Right now is the best time to start Oriental seeds. Three months warm takes them through November, then three months in the fridge through February. The seedlings above were started on Oct 27th, 2015, really pretty late for starting Orientals, especially when I planned on the four month intervals instead of three. I think now I will have to try to carry them over under lights. But since Judith's packets are 50 sds I can try again if I get them started ASAP!