Karen Things I try and do germination ,and being sure of what will happen is like that , surprising and interesting , Things like pink leaved or white leaved citrus trees you rarely hear of , 1970 the last time I even saw one .
I have seen them so I know they exist , but I would have a difficult time convincing myself if i had not seen one
Echinacea before the 1990's double ? no such critter , But , I had rarely seen one before ,
I try the seeds myself ,,
and as you said
gardening fun to try once in a while . ,
Echinacea
See Crimson Rambler does exist