oh geeze.. I bought a liquid rooting hormone a few years ago in a co-op and don't know the name.. it was a concentrate that you can change the strength depending on what you are rooting.. and it's only good for 10 hours after diluting it or something like that.. I used a teaspoon and used a 1 to 10 ratio for the coleus.. stuff is going to last me forever .. will see if I can find it