Juli you did not upset me at all. As English is not my mother tongue and as I can be lazy I took your sentence. Betty raised a very interesting matter (not many people know about that and I have the same case with one tulip, wondering as Betty does how some tulips can multiply when they are not settting any seed and when you do not see any new bulbs. Gardening forum is the best place for exchanging knowledge and I will be glad to have somebody else opinion. No kidding, just very curious to know more about that. May I know who is the specialist you are speaking about? We do learn everyday and I love that Juli. You know the way you write when you do not have a full control of a language leads to misunderstanding. I feel embarassed about that. Most of the time do not write much for that reason. .