Do NOT get Orange Velvet. Big thorns along with tons & tons of little prickers. Bleh. Don't quote me on this, but I think Harlequin is almost thornless. Gorgeous climber, white & pink blooms that smell wonderful.. love that rose. I moved mine as it was a teensy little bitty thing from next to the house to my new little itty bitty arbor that's over Freyja and planted her there. Grew about 2ft and was very generous with massive blooms.