Springcolor, sorry, I didn't save seeds. I'm not much of a saver any more. My seeds came from trade with an online garden friend. I only planted a few seeds to try the plant, see if I liked it. I saved some of those traded seeds to plant this year. But I think helenium is pretty common, probably easy to find.
I've never had a baby Joe Pye. Mine in the picture above is "Little Joe" Joe Pye.
Karen