Karol is a very interesting speaker and gives a wonderful talk. She was the speaker at Region 11's summer Regional in St. Louis a couple years ago. Really enjoyed her! I've also been to her gardens at the Minneapolis National several years ago. I think the National is in Minneapolis again next year and her garden is on the tour again. I used to get to the National meetings every couple of years, but since I've been hybridizing it's getting harder to leave the garden when they're blooming......