finally found them... this is when we first put them in.. added chains and hooks to the lights.. and the table top has the same t5 6 bulb set up now.. with really long ropes I can lower and raise it with
more or less the same industrial rack set up in the basement.. but much larger .. and I took some shelves out to keep the bigger plants like my figs this year.. the basement is the get watered when I remember place.. so I usually keep bigger pots down there with older dormant plants like my begonias, agastache and anything I overwinter