Polly, have you seen Conrad's Art Glass gardens blogspot? Larry has some beautiful dianthus. They look like "Raspberry Sherbert" or Raspberry surprize or strawberry sorbet..I posted a message asking which one but have not heard yet. His gardens are so beautiful and he and his wife really put a lot of work and money into creating such beautiful gardens. He has "Mr. President" clematis that I dearly love and am adding it to my wish list. I have also seen it growing at Brookside public gardens about 4 or 5 miles from me. I think they grow theirs in a hugh container. Will have to go back down and see.