Vintage may have sold the last of the 'Blue for You' plants it got from Cliff and no one there seems to have the energy or wish to root more cuttings of iffy roses. They seem to be concentrating on the traditional bestsellers. When it first appeared on their list of available roses, I didn't even order it because I assumed it would be snapped up within the first few hours. When it was still on the list weeks later, I ordered one. Vintage appears to have lost its core clientele for unique roses, or maybe those clients already own all of the roses ever offered by Vintage and Eurodesert.