I don't care for the new forms coming out either. I can't even tell its a daylily. I like some ruffling and edges. I think they are more delicate looking than some of the heavier gold edges. I like Karol Emmerich's. Not all of hers are heavy on the edges but they are really nice looking flowers. I am partial to dip spiders and ufo's so I would like to see some more interesting creations in those lines.