I don't use pesticides much outside. And I never judge others who do! We all have our own solutions to our own problems and thresholds of guilt. If I were selling plants, I would be much more aggressive. I never liked trapping mice till one ate a laelia bud I had waited to see for years. Then I started with the mouse traps. I always say "sorry" to the corpses. I can't help it. I see their perspective! Sometimes I'm tempted to taste an orchid!