ok in contact with 5 companies now for a good hoya supplier and 2 out of Thailand
hope i will have a good one soon i have been on this path for 3 years and wow not easy finding good ones and great prices but i never give up maybe take a break but not give up
thanks for the lead and suggestion Shirley
great to see you Hetty my plumeria are so confused again LOL every year sleep or not to sleep kinda funny
