Mike - wow, must be nice! All my new growth has been decimated by the 2 hard frosts we had this past week.. Oranges n Lemons had shot up an extra 2 feet, then the canes are a nasty purplish-black now. Everyone's still holding onto their leaves.. it's usually not until February that I actually lose all the leaves with the unprotected areas of the canes. In my mini bed, I'm leaving the mums there for extra protection on the tiny new minis I put in this year.. it's kinda like seeing a chihuahua peeking from between a great dane's legs with the mums & some of my minis.