Thanks for the link to the article, Toni. It's a good article.
I'd love to know the story behind "Hillary." Why would she refuse to let J&P name a rose for her and then allow a French hybridizer to do it? Maybe she doesn't even know about the French rose.
I really can't stand Barbra Streisand, but I'm in the uncomfortable position of having to defend her as a singer and actress. Are you being serious, Toni, or were you just kidding? I personally think she's one of the great voices of the 20th century, and whether you like the tone of her voice or not, her title as "singer" can't be disputed.
As for the acting thing, I'm wondering which of her 20 or so movies you're calling the "real" one. It's true she started out on Broadway and therefore starred only in musicals for a while, but she moved on to do some great comedies and dramas too. I can name five of her musicals right off the bat: 'Funny Girl,' 'Funny Lady,' 'On a Clear Day You Can See Forever,' 'Yentl,' and 'Hello Dolly.' Her comedies, all of which I enjoyed, include 'What's Up, Doc?' That was a huge movie when it came out, and she was hilariously funny in it. She made some major dramatic films too: 'The Way We Were' and 'A Star Is Born' come to mind right away.
I dislike her as a person, but I'll explain why in the next post because this one's getting too long.