Thank you for the link! That is what brought me to the forum in the first place. I'll post a picture of John's Big Mama plant when I can...it won't let me on my cell.
We are particularly Interested in the tetraploid crosses, at least John is (why some crosses are sterile and others are not). We also have to find a local source for named or unnamed varieties. It is already into the upper 90's in Texas, and I do by know how well shipped plants would fair.