Never said I was smart. I just got 2 roses from a seller in UK: Summer Holiday (
http://www.helpmefind.com/gard...) & Doris Tysterman (
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose...). Not really sure if they're bands or bigger.. I'm guessing bigger because they have to be "trimmed" to ship. So, depending on when I get them, I may just try & grow them inside through the winter. I can just put 'em into an empty bird cage to keep the cats out.