I have RM 10 -363 Tetra OP...I uncovered 3 good sized bulbs this year..Definate blooms January....Many of his bulb purchases,, will bloom too.. Remember, Ray was a good friend of Joe Hoell and Brian Dutton.. A lot of this material is good crosses from Greisbach seed or pollen!...Unfortunately I am struggling to get a reply from Ray, and the last time we spoke [2 yrs ago] He had a crook back!!..He's not a young man... Della, do you know him at all?.............One day, we'll all be like Ray, trying to hang on to the good lily life!