Feel so fortunate that Vic and Van's Iron Gate Garden is just up the road, they are in Region 15 and are members of my club. Just listening to them talk is a such an education. This year at our club show John Smethurst gave an insight on Vic and Van. He interviewed both of them for the presentation. It was informative, insightful and humorous. To say the least my garden grows All American Chief and Carnival in Mexico was added in the spring and a few others are grown as well. All are great performers and the color, Oh Wow!