All I know is, the previous owner planted two rose bushes in deep shade, under trees, surrounded by tall bushes, in heavy clay that's about 80% tree and bush roots.
They look like dead wood, except for the black fungus that looks pretty vigorous. A few leaves each year.
Then, inexplicably, a few big gorgeous blooms!
My neighbor has a really gorgeous coral rose entangled with an old, pruned lilac. Tye single branch shoots up 8-10 feet, and then a few heart-stoppingly lovely coral blooms appear way up there in the sky.