I'm not buying any from Palatine this year. I think it's the first time since 2006, when they first started taking orders for shipping to the United States. They don't have any of the new Kordes roses and they're not carrying the older roses I had wanted to buy this year. They had them last year and maybe they'll have them again next year. I hope so. I really would like to replace some of my own-root roses with grafted ones, but this turned out to be the wrong year for it.