And thanks Tom for liking my sdlg. I have lots of good sdlgs. but I don't know if we have a thread for posting them. Anyway 'Oreo' is very dark at least some of the time, but usually when I have seen it the foliage is terrible brown and scraggle and the bloom has poor form mostly. Maybe I am being too picky here. Also I would like to come from the reddish black side if possible hoping for the red beard as well. So maybe 'Fiery Temper' would be a good idea. Right now I am just casting about for possibilities. Jedlicka has one called 'Total Darkness' that really looks good, but I see no trace of plic around the hafts or beard to encourage me. anyway thanks again
