Dave just an aside and I don't do citrus. Long long ago I was stationed in Sasebo, Japan island of Kyushu. The province of Satsuma on Kyushu is where it was imported from to US, hence the name. They were a quite prevalent small tree around Sasebo. While Sasebo does not get really cold, it snows frequently in winter. It was amazing to see the Satsuma trees, laden with wet snow while full of ripening fruit.