Well, I'm right there worrying with you all. I started some 100 or so clems from seed a year ago and planted the seedlings along the fence. 1 of them bloomed last year and it was wonderful.. I was out in the garden today . There were some patches where the snow had melted away . There was only one seedling visible....The rest may be under the mulch , or they may be dead. I doubt that they have established enough roots to survive under ground. So i wait and I hope.