Just curious, when do you start your tomato and pepper seeds indoors (under lights with heat mats)? I've always started my peppers about 12 weeks before my last frost date (I go with Mother's Day here in zone 4, depending on the weather and how much I like the plants), and the tomatoes somewhere between 8-12 weeks. I know the recommended time is 8 weeks for both, but it seems like the peppers need a little extra time. I'm coming up on that 12 week mark this month (yay!!!).