Thanks, Ann, for posting that link. I have been checking Mr. Faulkner's website and see that one of his new introductions, SHIRLEY SNYDER, is a beautiful pink tet with a wonderful pattern and at least four colors like Fred was talking about, and I am wondering if it is possible to cross that with a toothy tet to try for a toothy patterned daylily. Is there such a thing? Hmmmm...