Fred, thank you so much for all this information. You've explained it so well, and I can see why it's pretty iffy at best to get a conversion that keeps and why it takes so long! I love that patterned daylily you just posted and can see you're well on your way to establishing a great line of patterns!
I've just been spending some time on Luddy Lambertson's Art Gallery Gardens website, and he has so many wonderful and unusual daylilies with patterns -- and some with teeth! I'm getting all sorts of ideas now -- ooh nooooo... But it seems to me I did see some spiders, or at least UFo's, with very interesting patterns -- mostly in the lavender-pinks to purples. And I think I did see a very double patterned daylily, although I'm not sure I liked it that much -- too confusing maybe -- on Bob Faulkner's site, or perhaps one of the other Region 2 nurseries I accessed through his website. Boy, there sure is some fantastic stuff out there!!!