@beckygardener...super article. What is the red-orange stuff you are using for mulch? I am dying to know. It is so attractive. I am always looking for ideas for vines and this is great but will not work for me here in Mexico. I really don't think we have feed lots. All the cows and sheep i've seen appear to be free range, plus the wooden supports would not survive a year...no wood in the garden. Ah me