Well, I bought four that had been left out and froze, they were marked down to $1.00 each, from $7.00. So I was trying to get some feedback hoping someone had grown them. I bought mine at Lowe's. I hate to have to judge them on the four that were in such bad shape, but if they do well and take full sun as they say, I guess that will be even a bigger plus. If they all die, I won't be able to be too harsh on them, being they were in such sad shape to start with. I may go ahead a buy a healthy one when they get them back in just to have a more reliable standard to judge by.