Dave and Trish - I was so interested in what you had to say about Arbor Gate Gardens, that I Googled their name and found their website:
http://arborgate.com/index.php
Wow! What a beautiful place! I sure wished I lived closer, to actually visit this place. I was amazed at their gardens and the many interesting classes they offer throughout the year. Tell them to update your bio on their website. They still have you listed with 5 children instead of 7!