Thanks Sue and Ed, I just got done putting some seeds in damp vermiculite in baggies and put in fridge bottom bins. I also put some of the same seeds in damp paper towels in baggies in the same fridge. They should be ready to put straight in the ground the end of April/first of May. I am not planning on starting them in pots inside. This is my first time trying the stratification method. Do you think that Allium seeds and Lupine seeds also need to stratify? What about Columbine and Delphinium seeds? These are all seeds I collected from my own plants in the fall. I appreciate all your advice.